老师好。
我学习了3.5年中文。 我的办法是学习很多很快。我非常喜这个办法。有些人可以通过这种方式学习。我意识到,我熟悉很多概念。 但是,我还没有掌握这很多概念。 其实,我掌握的概念很少。我必须接受我学习新概念太多太快。(也我在我的小城市上练习说中文的机会太少了,但我无法改变这个,所以我废弃了。)
在我进步以前,我的看法是我先必须掌握很少数概念。
Since 2020, I have made gradual progress. My hypothesis is that if I pause to master a limited amount of frequently used, personally meaningful content, my progress will become exponential.
我有三个目标。
- Speak Mandarin Chinese understandably.
- Read Harry Potter in Chinese.
- Pass the HSK 3 2021 and/or the New HSK 3 exam while I am 65, before I turn 66. (I want to pass as a result of my learning, not as a result of my studying for an exam.)
Slides based on Harry Potter as the central text
With my friend, Mary, a Mandarin Chinese teacher and language exchange partner, I am reading the first Harry Potter novel in Simplified Characters. She is reading it in English. I have shared with her that the most important part of the novel to me is in Chapter 12. Although I am still reading Chapter 1, she has started to make slides with grammar points and vocabulary for me in hopes that, when I reach Chapter 12, I’ll be able to read it fluently.
老师,would you be open to helping me master the content of these slides? If so, I will send them to you.
What do I mean by “master”?
I want to know the content so thoroughly, comprehensively, and deeply, inside and out, that it becomes a permanent part of my heart, mind, and thinking. If I’m half asleep on an airplane to China and the flight attendant speaks to me in Chinese, I want to be able to answer.
What’s an example of what have I mastered?
口。 When I’m an old woman, I believe I will know that’s “mouth” and it’s third tone. I know handwriting is less important, but I can write that character with 3 strokes, in the correct order.
I want to know the first 3,000 most frequently-used Chinese characters at that level. I want to have mastered them.
比如说, in slide 2 is 废弃.
I would welcome help learning, remembering, recalling, and being able to use in multiple contexts:
废 fèi to abandon
广 [ guǎng ] broad, vast, wide; building, house
发 [ fā ] to issue, to dispatch, to send out; hair
弃 qì to abandon
亠 [ tóu ] lid, cover; head
厶 [ sī ] private, secret
廾 [ gǒng ] two hands
I would welcome helping taking what I know and building on it through connections.
For example, 到 is also used in the slides. 到 also contains 厶 [ sī ] private, secret! Helping make connections like that – carefully using the content of the slides, not new information – helps me build an inner network of understanding with my heart and mind.
Specific areas in which I wish to grow as a student
- Correct pronunciation.
- Correct word order.
- Applying my knowledge of one character or one word learned in one context and using it accurately in another context.
How to help me as an individual student
- During mutually-agreed upon times for conversation, please speak Mandarin Chinese. Research findings on adult second language describe me accurately. My learning is optimized when I think in my target language and suppress my native language. Shifting back and forth between languages breaks the fragile connections of understanding that I am trying to build in my mind.
- During whiteboard instructional sessions, use of both Mandarin Chinese and English may be helpful and efficient.
- Please help me build on what I know. For me, shaping works. Please catch me doing something right. For me, success breeds success.
With regard to corrective feedback, I prefer cues to self-correct.
Adult relationships are based on mutuality. Between adults, criticism, correction, fault-finding, and unsolicited advice harm relationships. How is a teacher of adults to correct errors made by adult students?
This 2023 study on corrective feedback is fascinating. It notes “significant differences between the Chinese as a second language teachers’ and students’ preferences for corrective feedback types.”
Students in the study – I assume they are college students – preferred direct correction. Teachers in the study preferred “recasts,” i.e. implicit correction within the context of the conversation, rather than explicit correction.
- During conversations, I learn best from error correction when it occurs naturally within the flow of conversation. If I make pronunciation or word order errors, if the teacher will speak my sentence correctly, I will consider that a cue to self-correct and I will repeat it.
- I may need a little extra time to complete a thought or to repeat an incorrect sentence correctly. A typical pause in speech lasts only about a quarter to half a second. During my pauses, some teachers find themselves talking over me. Please know I am aware of too-long pauses and am working on this.
What you can count on from me
- 努力。
- Desire for precision.
- Homework completion.
- Daily study. I am part of a group of 学习伙伴 who study an hour or more each day. Here’s the home page linking to the Google docs we use for check-ins.
I am looking for the “sweet spot” where teachers are teaching what they love, in a way they love, and I am loving what we’re learning in a way I can learn.
My limits
- 30 minutes per online session. I can stretch to 45 minutes but usually experience diminishing returns. My retention of what happens in the final 15 minutes is low.
- Timing. I am available for classes starting at 6:00/6:30 AM and 2:00 PM on Fridays, U.S. Eastern time.
- Topics. 我是一个人。To quote Leonard Bernstein’s character in “Maestro”, I have a “grand inner life rather than a grand outer life.” I would love to be able to read Harry Potter fluently. Here’s a Google doc with the first pages. I love to talk about psychology. Mary helped me write and translate this.
- Urgency. I am 65, not 25. I wish to follow research-backed methods likely to help me to do very well, very quickly, while I have time.
- Exposures. As do other second language learners, I need 3 to 17 exposures to learn a new word. Although I appreciate teachers teaching me new words, if the words occur in a context I will never use in my personal life or read about as a topic of personal interest to me, I am unlikely to remember it.
My Mandarin Chinese learning background
My connection to China began when I was around 10 years old and read The Good Earth by Pearl S. Buck. This is a copy of the paperback I read probably 100 times. Pearl S. Buck’s autobiography, My Several Worlds, shaped me as a woman, a person, a thinker, and a scholar.
I took one semester of Mandarin Chinese in 1981 and began to study again in 2020.
My language-related bio is at the bottom of this page: If I Were to Begin Learning Mandarin Chinese Today.
My level
I passed HSK 1 (2021) and HSK 2 (2021) in 2021. I took HSK 3 (2022) and did well on the listening portion, but did not pass because I could not read well enough.
According to Benfang, on 1/5/2024, I spoke at the HSK 2/HSK 3 level.
HSKlevel characters test
- Characters, 1/8/2024: Understanding: You can understand 450 characters*
- Vocabulary, 1/8/2024: (forthcoming)
*According to HSKlevel, those 450 characters land in Tier I of The Table of General Standard Chinese Characters (通用规范汉字表), a standard list of 8105 characters published by the Chinese government.
Current online teachers
- Mary (private; not on italki)
- Frank
- Benfang | Chinese with Ben – YouTube | Dashu Mandarin – YouTube
- Annie | Story Learning Chinese with Annie – YouTube
- I met several times with Elena.
- I take courses offered by Andrew Methven, creator of the Slow Chinese newsletter.
- On italki, since 2020, I have taken over 600 classes with nearly 30 teachers.
Other courses, software, and resources I use are here:
老师,thanks for considering my request!
Published 1/8/2024
Updated 1/9/2024
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